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Rifter
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Perhaps Intervocative shoulod listen to the obvious many who are asking for a mac version - there's clearly a consumer base ready for it.


Really.  Macs have never been more than 5% of the market, ever.

Why do you think they finally switched over to using x86 architecture instead of Motorola?  Now they can run the other 95% of the software base in native mode.

The marketshare of Apple is 6,6% and they switched from IBM to Intel to be exact.



The Apple processor was based on a joint Motorola IBM design.  That part is irrelevant though, the point is that it was a non-x86 architecture.  By changing to the x86 (which in Intel) it enables them to tap into the vast software library that runs on virtually every Windows PC, and if they do their marketing properly, will increase their market share.  By the way, the change to x86 is what bumped their market share up to what it is now.
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There is (sorry IV) better software available on the Mac, but there are some of us who use both OS's and would like to have one library, rather than maintaining 2 separate ones.

Still waiting for JUST ONE example.
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if the Profiler is written in JAVA it would be even possible to use it on BeOS, Palm, Linux, Mac or PC.. that would be cool 
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if the Profiler is written in JAVA it would be even possible to use it on BeOS, Palm, Linux, Mac or PC.. that would be cool 

That would be awesome...slow.
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Quoting Peter von Frosta:
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if the Profiler is written in JAVA it would be even possible to use it on BeOS, Palm, Linux, Mac or PC.. that would be cool 

That would be awesome...slow.


To cite Bronski Beat: "It ain't necessarily so". 
You could implement most parts of the program itself in C or C++ and just write the GUI in Java. On the other hand, PC's are getting faster and faster, so I think that the loss of speed will not be a problem. 
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Actually it IS the GUI that is slow in Java (due to some limitations in the Windows GUI Java has to work around).

No one in their right mind would make a program like this in C/C++. The only mainline options these days are .NET or Java. Java has the advantage of being cross platform (but unable to communicate with other software on the same platform), while .NET has the advantage of being closer to Delphi (which is what the current DVD Profiler is written in) and also it has native support for Windows Presentation Foundation etc.

Only IVS can make the call on which approach is best (or in reality - "least bad") - or to ignore it and stay on the Delphi stuff for a while
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No one in their right mind would make a program like this in C/C++.

I would. 

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The only mainline options these days are .NET or Java. Java has the advantage of being cross platform (but unable to communicate with other software on the same platform), while .NET has the advantage of being closer to Delphi (which is what the current DVD Profiler is written in) and also it has native support for Windows Presentation Foundation etc.


That's what you're thinking. Developing in .NET is the same one way direction as Delphi is. It runs on a PC under Windows - that's it.

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Only IVS can make the call on which approach is best (or in reality - "least bad") - or to ignore it and stay on the Delphi stuff for a while


I don't think that IVS will throw away their development and make a new approach - either in .NET or Java. What we did above was just a little bit Daydreaming... 
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cargen
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Why all the heated discussion about and for a Mac version?

I've been using DVD Profiler for several years on a Mac PowerBook using Virtual PC. It works great and fast enough. I use it to load my MX-3000 remote control with Triple B Software's amazing DMX-3000.

And now that Apple has switched to Intel chips, Apple users can boot into either the Mac or Windows operating system and enjoy lightening fast DVD Profiler.

I'd rather see DVD Profiler devote their energy to improving it's Windoze DVD Profiler.
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I am an old DVD profiler user but 18 months ago switched to a Mac and to be honest it was a great decision.  I would love a version of the program on Mac as i don't have an intel mac, bought mine before the change to intel, and I also don't have virtual PC.

I have DVDpedia but to be honest I don't think it is as good as DVD profiler and I know I have a lot of problems finding DVD's even via UPC as it dosen't really support region 4 and thus my collection isn't completely accurate.

Having said that in the next few months I will be moving to an intel Mac and will use Parallels or Bootcamp to run windows and will then reload DVD profiler.

Just for the record Skip did seem like he was talking for IVS, too bad he is the only one who didn't realise it.

I think if IVS did make a Mac version it would do VERY well as in my opinion it is by far the best database for DVD's on any OS, and supports region 4.
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skipnet50
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Kodo:

Here is the OFFICIAL IVS respnse to this from their Knowledge Base in th Support area.

"Is there a Macintosh version of DVD Profiler available?
You do not have access to a Windows computer to run DVD Profiler."

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He knows that, skip
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Here is the OFFICIAL IVS respnse to this from their Knowledge Base in th Support area.

"Is there a Macintosh version of DVD Profiler available?
You do not have access to a Windows computer to run DVD Profiler."

Skip



Actually Skip that is NOT the "official IVS response". All you copied was the question 

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Is there a Macintosh version of DVD Profiler available?
You do not have access to a Windows computer to run DVD Profiler.

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With apologies to our Mac fans, at this time there is no Macintosh version, and no firm plans to create a Mac version. Although we cannot provide support for this solution, many users successfully run DVD Profiler under Virtual PC on their Mac.

If this answered your question, please let us know


But as Peter pointed out he already seems to know this
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See how often i use FAQ's myself, I thought it was funny.

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Stéphane
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Not going to happen. You really should try a search BEFOIRE asking question for the gazillionth time..


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LOL, consumer need...oh yeah. We have 500,000 users and we have maybe gotten 1000 request for a Mac version. Let's see that represents 0.20%. That is Two Tenths of ONE PERCENT. Yikes!!!! That's a huge consumer base......NOT!!!!!!!!!!!



So basically, one shouldn't emit a request for a Mac version because there is no Mac version  because there aren't enough requests, is that it?

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LOL, Stephane.

The biggest single factor involved is that IVS has ONE programmer, and he simply doesn't have time to setup an Apple version and this is largely determined by Macs overall lack of market penetration. I know this is facetious, but who is going to buy it, the two Mac users in the known universe.(tongue in cheek)

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