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69SAMAEL69
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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As a paying member since 2003, I really like DVD Profiler.  But recent events have me wondering if I should start looking for an alternative.  Just a quick search turns up things like Movie Collector, MediaMan and EMDB, but none seem to have the same features or a database which is even close to being as robust.

Out of curiousity, I even installed EMDB because it's freeware.  AND the first disk I tried wasn't found..."Wallace and Gromit in Three Amazing Adventures".  No UPC search either. 

grrrr

Bah, I'm just ranting anyway. 
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Touti
Registered: January 18, 2001
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Even if the end result is that Invelos has to go out of business and DVD profiler 3 disappear and even if 2.5 never comes back as a full release, dvdp 2.4 is still the best software out there for us to manage our collections.....why should we move to lower product just because of bunch of friends *#$@$ed up when trying to go in business together.

My collection is rather small at 320 titles but unlike many here who claim to own thousands, mine were all legally bought.  That means my collection is worth about 5000$ straight out of my pocket and I will use the best product available to properly manage it
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Johan1FS
Registered: June 11, 2006
Posts: 129
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Quoting Touti:
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...unlike many here who claim to own thousands, mine were all legally bought.


Ouch, that statement may be a bit of a harsh generalisation?

I certainly do not claim to own thousands;  I actually do. And every single one of them legal, bought from reputable online dealers and stores over a period of 11 years, with the receipts and import documentation to prove it -- my insurance requires it anyway.

There's one exception: I once tried to buy the Destinos Spanish learning DVDs on eBay because the distributor did not ship internationally and got fakes despite my best efforts to make sure they were original.  However, I surrendered them to the local Customs authority and looked on whilst they officially destroyed the offending discs with a slightly perverse pleasure. I got rewarded with form P1.145 - the Certificate of Official Destruction. 
Axo
Registered: January 18, 2005
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Didnt they even try to tell you to just scrap them with scissors or anything?
VibroCount
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Registered: August 19, 2002
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Quoting Touti:
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...unlike many here who claim to own thousands, mine were all legally bought.  That means my collection is worth about 5000$ straight out of my pocket...


I can show payments to Deep Discount of more than $11,000 since 2003. This does not included the thousands of dollars I've spent at Target, WalMart, Tower Video, Disney Movie Club, MovieMail, and the less than $100 I've spent at eBay (including a purchase of the Fox Film Noir "Boomerang" which was recalled shortly after release).

Your generalization is offensive.
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Touti
Registered: January 18, 2001
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Quoting VibroCount:
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I can show payments to Deep Discount of more than $11,000 since 2003. This does not included the thousands of dollars I've spent at Target, WalMart, Tower Video, Disney Movie Club, MovieMail, and the less than $100 I've spent at eBay (including a purchase of the Fox Film Noir "Boomerang" which was recalled shortly after release).

Your generalization is offensive.


I didn't generalize VibroCount.  I said "Many" not "Everyone".  I apologize if I offended you or anyone else, that was not my intention.

Edit: After re-reading my post I realize that it can easily be misinterpreted.  It should be read as "Many of those who own thousands".  I certainly didn't mean to say that everyone who has a big collection didn't buy it legitimately
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Johan1FS
Registered: June 11, 2006
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Didnt they even try to tell you to just scrap them with scissors or anything?


No...but they did offer me the opportunity to join in the "fun"... 

It did take some time, but the PayPal dispute resolution process in the end ruled in my favour and I got most of the cost price back.  But the refund of the customs duties & VAT is still pending ... and I expect it to take another few years or so...
skipnet50
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Registered: October 4, 2000
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Treading on thin ice here, Touti. i do not even own pirated software, let alone movies, I have no desire to steal from anyone.

Skip
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8ballMax
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Registered: July 23, 2001
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My entire collection, 1352, is completely bootleg/pirate free.  If you would like, I'll email you copies of my receipts .
RichieV
Registered: June 1, 2005
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Quoting 69SAMAEL69:
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As a paying member since 2003, I really like DVD Profiler.  But recent events have me wondering if I should start looking for an alternative.  Just a quick search turns up things like Movie Collector, MediaMan and EMDB, but none seem to have the same features or a database which is even close to being as robust.

Out of curiousity, I even installed EMDB because it's freeware.  AND the first disk I tried wasn't found..."Wallace and Gromit in Three Amazing Adventures".  No UPC search either. 

grrrr

Bah, I'm just ranting anyway. 


Collectorz seem to think that it's time to move, d oa google for DVD Profiler and at the top is a paid add for and  I quote

'DVD Profiler alternative
www.collectorz.com      Catalog your DVDs automatically. Download cover images, cast & crew.'

It would be a shame for DVD profiler to disappear but I have to say I fear the worst.

Rich
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KevinJ
Heisenberg? I'm not sure.
Registered: March 22, 2001
Posts: 1,692
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I can't say I've bought every title I have, but none of them are illegal. Oh, there are some I'm embarrassed to say I own, but nothing against the law.

HOWEVER, I must call Skip out on his obvious lies..

Quoting skipnet50:
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i do not even own pirated software, let alone movies...

A cursory look at your collection finds...

Three different versions of Peter Pan. C'mon, there are pirates in that!

The two Pirates of the Caribbean films. Definitely pirates in that!

Ice Pirates. My god, it says "Pirates" in the title!!!

And three, count 'em - three, copies of The Princess Bride. Now THAT'S got pirates as well. In fact, a "Dread Pirate" to boot.

So obviously we can't take Skip at his word. Who knows if we ever could.... 
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Touti
Registered: January 18, 2001
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I made my apologies to those who felt insulted and I explained what I meant, get over it guys.  If you want to read a forum when there's people from all over the world, you're also gonna have to accept that they are not all native english speaking people and that sometimes sentences maybe be written as they should

Bottom line is, if you don't own pirated dvd's then there's not need to be insulted because i wasn't taliking about you....for the others....if the hat fits wear it.
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MarkEJHarrison
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Registered: December 20, 2001
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I'll fess up.  I have two pirated DVDs.

Someone gave me The Terminal and Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow as a birthday gift a few years ago.

In my defense, I then went out and purchased the real discs.  But for some reason I still have the copies.  Not sure what to do with them.  I don't want to pass them on to someone else of course.  I guess I should just toss them and recycle the cases, but I just haven't gotten around to it for whatever reason.
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69SAMAEL69
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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I only have a meager collection of 523, but I also must confess, I have a pirate...ONE and I bought it knowing it was a pirate  .  Salo: 120 Days of Sodom.  The "real" version, Criterion, is so rare that it sells for as much as $800us.  It's got to be one of the most valuable single DVDs out there.  No single movie is worth that.  I have lots downloaded, but a vast majority of it is foreign (Mostly Italian and Japanese) and legal since it is not available and was never available in North America.

Like most here, I make every effort to buy the original...NEW if possible.  Second hand in perfect shape is acceptable.  Gifts are the best. 

Rob
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Quoting 69SAMAEL69:
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I have lots downloaded, but a vast majority of it is foreign (Mostly Italian and Japanese) and legal since it is not available and was never available in North America.
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I don't think lack of availability would stand up in court if one of the copyright holders prosecuted you.
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Johan1FS
Registered: June 11, 2006
Posts: 129
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Salo: 120 Days of Sodom.  The "real" version, Criterion, is so rare that it sells for as much as $800us.  It's got to be one of the most valuable single DVDs out there.


I bought the BFI Region 2 version for GBP2.99 plus shipping many years ago, but have yet to watch the thing right to the end...I believe I paid about BGP2.98 too much for it!
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